Talking Under Water Episode 84: 2023 State of the Industry 

Dec. 15, 2023
In the final episode of 2023, the hosts share insight into the state of the industry surveys conducted by the Endeavor Business Media Water Group.  

In this episode, the hosts discuss the U.S. EPA’s request for information on Build America Buy America products and equipment, funding for water resource projects from the Department of Interior and EPA’s proposal to expand the Lead & Copper Rule requirements. Additionally, the hosts dive into highlights from their State of the Industry surveys for each water market – stormwater, wastewater and drinking water. They also discuss trends and issues that are driving market forces and industry change. 

Show Notes:  


  • Cold open | 0:00
  • Host introduction and episode summary | 0:30
  • EPA issues Build America, Buy America Request for Information | 1:15
  • State of the Wastewater Industry | 6:55
  • State of the Stormwater Industry | 10:33
  • State of the Drinking Water Industry | 13:36
  • Discussion of trends | 22:33
  • Workforce | 23:25
  • Regulations | 30:42
  • Construction and funding | 36:27
  • Housekeeping | 45:24

About the Podcast   

Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between WasteWater Digest (WWD), WaterWorld  and Stormwater Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, point of use, point of entry, residential, storm water and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and on-site interviews with experts for WWD, WQP and SWS. New episodes of the podcast are released on the third Friday of every month. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani /      

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About the Author

Katie Johns

Katie Johns, editor-in-chief of Storm Water Solutions and Water Quality Products, graduated from the University of Missouri in 2016 with a Bachelor of Journalism and a Bachelor of Arts in Spanish. Johns joined the Storm Water Solutions team in September 2019. Johns also helps plan the annual StormCon conference and co-hosts the Talking Under Water podcast. Prior to entering the B2B industry, she worked as a newspaper reporter and editor in Sarasota, Florida, and a magazine assistant editor in the Chicago suburbs. She can be reached at [email protected]