Talking Under Water Episode 58: Smart Water Trends & Best Practices

Nov. 18, 2022
In this month’s episode, the hosts talk about the EPA’s PFAS CERCLA proposal, the Jackson, Mississippi Water Crisis and drought resiliency funding and share an interview on smart water.

In this month’s episode of Talking Under Water co-hosts Bob Crossen and Katie Johns dive into recent industry news, including the EPA’s PFAS CERCLA proposal, the Jackson, Mississipi Water Crisis and recent funding for both drought resiliency in the West and SRFs. Additionally, the hosts share an interview with Steve Drangsholt, account executive with Trinnex. Johns and Drangsholt spoke about smart water and how the digital transformation is impacting the water industry. They also dive into machine learning and digital twins, and Drangsholt shares how you can bring digital transformation to your workplace. 

 Show Notes: 


  • Cold open | 0:00 
  • Host intro and episode summary | 0:38 
  • EPA’s proposal to add PFOS and PFOA | 1:25 
  • Jackson, Mississippi, Water Crisis | 6:34  
  • Funding for drought resiliency in the West | 7:15 
  • SRF funding update | 8:08 
  • Steve Drangsholt Introduction | 9:10 
  • What is Trinnex? | 9:36 
  • Current smart water trends | 11:10 
  • Mitigating digital risks | 14:40 
  • Impact of increasingly Intense weather | 17:09 
  • Machine learning & digital twins | 18:57 
  • How digital twins can improve infrastructure | 26:29 
  • Advice for implementing smart water practices | 28:41 
  • Keeping the human element | 31:06 
  • Interview ends | 32:47 
  • Housekeeping | 33:02
  • Outro | 33:52 

 About the Podcast 

Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Water & Wastes Digest (WWD), Water Quality Products (WQP) and Storm Water Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, point of use, point of entry, residential, storm water and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and on-site interviews with experts for WWD, WQP and SWS. New episodes of the podcast are released on the third Friday of every month. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / 

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About the Author

Katie Johns

Katie Johns, editor-in-chief of Storm Water Solutions and Water Quality Products, graduated from the University of Missouri in 2016 with a Bachelor of Journalism and a Bachelor of Arts in Spanish. Johns joined the Storm Water Solutions team in September 2019. Johns also helps plan the annual StormCon conference and co-hosts the Talking Under Water podcast. Prior to entering the B2B industry, she worked as a newspaper reporter and editor in Sarasota, Florida, and a magazine assistant editor in the Chicago suburbs. She can be reached at [email protected]

About the Author

Bob Crossen

Bob Crossen is senior managing editor for WWD and iWWD. Crossen graduated from Illinois State University in Dec. 2011 with a Bachelor of Arts in German and a Bachelor of Arts in Journalism. He worked for Campbell Publications, a weekly newspaper company in rural Illinois outside St. Louis for four years as a reporter and regional editor.